On March 23, 2026, I was contacted by “Pam Gibson” from “Forge Media”. “Forge Media” was a made up company that does not exist.

“Pam Gibson” is Molly Gore. We know this because Molly Gore, posing as “Pam Gibson”, interviewed Lindsay Shepherd in her home.

Frances Widdowson, Lindsay Shepherd and Jerry Amernic (the author of “Sleepwoking”) were all set up on May 4, 2026. They were told that they were going to the CBC studio in Vancouver for an interview, but then this was changed to Franklin Studios.
On May 7, 2026, Widdowson was contacted by a retired RCMP Officer who said a number of police officers had been lured to the CBC studio in Vancouver on March 25 and 26 and had been humiliated on a stage in front of a “studio audience”.

Widdowson’s travel arrangements from Calgary to Vancouver were made by Lisa St. Angelo, a production manager with Sphere Media. On May 3, 2026 Widdowson was flown to Vancouver and was put up in a hotel. Widdowson returned to Calgary on May 4. Widdowson’s flight, hotel and expenses were paid by “Forge Media”. Widdowson was also paid a $1,000 honorarium in cash.


On May 4 at 3:30 p.m. Widdowson was picked up at her hotel and driven to Franklin Studios.

Widdowson was greeted by a man (who called himself “Mike Smith” and turned out to be Igor Vamos) and a woman (Amy Mercer). A crew of about 20 people were in the studio, and there were several cameras being used. Below are the people who were present that day.

Widdowson was told that a actor dressed up as John A. Macdonald would be part of the interview to give an actor’s perspective on the difficulties of playing Macdonald in this day and age (the photos on the right are of the actor, the actor sitting next to Widdowson and the actor leaving when Widdowson started up the livestream). Dakota Ray Hebert, a Dene comedian from Saskatchewan, was the interviewer (the photos on the left are of Hebert’s chair, Hebert in the wig, and Hebert leaving when Widdowson started up the livestream). Hebert was wearing a blond wig and was dressed up, with a great deal of makeup, as an airhead.

After about a half hour, two aboriginal men – Ryan Moccasin and Gitz Crazyboy walked in and dumped some children’s shoes on a table in front of Widdowson. They then sat down in two chairs and glared at Widdowson. Hebert, the interviewer (left), then tried to stare down Widdowson with intense hatred in her eyes.


Below is a video of the John A. Macdonald actor, Crazyboy, Moccasin, and Hebert getting up to leave when Widdowson started the livestream.
The entire livestream that Widdowson did is available below.
A direct deposit sent to Lindsay Shepherd revealed that the company sending money was NLT1 Productions. This led Shepherd to figure out that the program was called “Counting Coup” and involved Dakota Ray Hebert, Gitz Crazyboy, Ryan Moccasin, Shane Belcourt, Tito Ybarra, Marlo Miazga (former president of Sphere Media), and Shant Joshi.

Lindsay also signed a released that was signed by Liam Scramstad.



This project receives its money from the Indigenous Screen Office.

The “core-funding” for this entity comes from the Government of Canada (Heritage Canada), and CBC is one of the “program partners”.

On May 11, 2026, Lindsay Shepherd contacted the CBC to find out whether the same organization had booked space at the CBC studio in Vancouver on March 25 and 26 (the retired police officer humiliation) and May 4 (the John A. Macdonald set up). The booking person confirmed this. Then, the next day, Shepherd asked whether the CBC was behind the production, and she received the following email from Katherine Wolfgang, Director of PR, CBC.
